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Preporuka XWA okulara
« u: 30.08.2021. u 11:02:25 sati »
Nasao sam u ponudi dosta XWA okulara od 100° vidnog polja. Ne znam za koji bih se odlucio, ima li tko od vas iskustva?

Nekako mi oni APM djeluju oke, a i pristupacne su im i cijene. Explore Scientific i TeleVue su skuplji, njih bih iskljucio. Sto vi mislite?
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« Odgovori #1 u: 30.08.2021. u 16:11:00 sati »
Ja bi samo zaobisao ove velike 2" od kile, ovaj ES 20mm 100° je opticki vrhunski ali je jednostavno pretezak
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« Odgovori #2 u: 26.01.2022. u 23:13:05 sati »
Tek sad vidim temu.

Meni su prošli kroz ruke svi Ethosi, svi APM, i neki ES.

Ethos serija je nesto bolja optički od ostalih, a mehanički su najbolji.
APM su odlični i ne zaostaju nešto iza Ethosa optički, još k tome su najlakši od svih, i najjeftiniji-topla preporuka.

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« Odgovori #3 u: 27.01.2022. u 08:08:38 sati »
Thnx *tu*
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« Odgovori #4 u: 27.01.2022. u 10:33:31 sati »
Bok,

Imam Lunt i HDC APM-a verziju u 5 (čak dva za bino - no nos mi širok pa ne mogu skupiti bino), 9, 13 i 20 mm velićini (100 ili 1100).

Za mene vrhunski.

Imam i "stariju" verziju Ethosa 13 mm, ovi APM -ovi ne zaostaju za njima.

Osim toga nudi se i adapter s M44.5x0.75  na T2 navoj, ako ti zatreba.

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« Odgovori #5 u: 27.01.2022. u 17:08:13 sati »
APM 20mm 100° bih mogao uzeti.
Newtoni: 300mm f5.7 dobson, 150mm f8 dobson, homemade TS astrograf 152mm f4, Vega Ljubljana 140/1417; refraktori: Explore Scientific AR 152, Explore Scientific 127ED triplet APO, Explore Scientific 80ED triplet APO, mini Jaeger's 54/330, 90/800 eBayscope bino, Carton 80/528, Carton 60/1000, SS Shorty 80/400, Meade 60/360 ETX, "meopta" AD720; Zrak 56/800, homemade "Plavko" 56/800, Vega Ljubljana 45/700. Okulari: TS UWAN 16mm 82°, Gold line 6 i 9mm, te brdo homemade okulara 10-32mm. Homemade 1.25" okular turret, 2" dijagonale sa prizmom i zrcalom, 2x barlowi 1.25 i 2", Montaža: Skywatcher Synscan custom. Kamere: Omegon veTEC533C, Canon EOS 1100D, QHY5 mono. Filteri: Optolong L-Extreme 1.25" Objektivi: Meopta Belar 4.5/105, Meopta Anaret 4.5/90, 4.5/80 i 4.5/50, "rus" 3.5/50, PZO Mikar/S 4.5/55, Kit 18-55mm, Porst Super-Tele 3.5/200, Pentacon 2.8/135, Mamiya 2/50, Helios 2/58 i Flektogon 2.4/35. Dalekozori: Super Zenith 12x50, Tento 7x50, Bresser 20-60x60, 10x40 noname monokular

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« Odgovori #6 u: 27.01.2022. u 22:04:06 sati »
Uzmi sad ako mozes, jer ce cijena otic gore i to dosta, svaki cas.
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« Odgovori #7 u: 27.01.2022. u 22:29:48 sati »
...ali kolko vidim, mislim da 20mm 100 deg vise nema nigdje za kupit.
Ako je tako, morat ces cekat tko zna kolko, ali cijena ce biti skoro x2 po meni...
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« Odgovori #8 u: 27.01.2022. u 22:31:15 sati »
Da, evo ES je vec povisio cijene za 20mm x2 u odnosu na prije, ovo ce biti nova cijena

https://explorescientificusa.com/collections/100-series-eyepiece/products/100-20mm-epwp10020-01
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« Odgovori #9 u: 28.01.2022. u 08:35:25 sati »
Da, nažalost, prilike se okreću nepovoljno za nas.

Pogledaj i TS, nema navoj na vrhu za nadogradnju, no pronjuškaj recenzije, po meni su to isti okulari.

https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p7142_TS-Optics-XWA-20-mm-100--x-treme-wide-angle-eyepiece---2-inch.html

ili možda ovo:

https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p7921_TS-Optics-SWA-100--Ultra-Series-21-mm-2--Xtreme-Wide-Angle-Eyepiece.html

Sve ovisi gdje češ ga ubaciti od te tvoje opreme.

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« Odgovori #10 u: 28.01.2022. u 11:55:27 sati »
...ali kolko vidim, mislim da 20mm 100 deg vise nema nigdje za kupit.
Ako je tako, morat ces cekat tko zna kolko, ali cijena ce biti skoro x2 po meni...

Evo ga.

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« Odgovori #11 u: 28.01.2022. u 12:44:07 sati »
Ma kupit cu ja vraga, trebaju se ukucani prvo sloziti sa tim. *zubo* :-D

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« Odgovori #13 u: 28.01.2022. u 13:01:48 sati »
Tako mi je bilo i sa kamerom, cekao sam je 2 mjeseca, ali je dosla.
Newtoni: 300mm f5.7 dobson, 150mm f8 dobson, homemade TS astrograf 152mm f4, Vega Ljubljana 140/1417; refraktori: Explore Scientific AR 152, Explore Scientific 127ED triplet APO, Explore Scientific 80ED triplet APO, mini Jaeger's 54/330, 90/800 eBayscope bino, Carton 80/528, Carton 60/1000, SS Shorty 80/400, Meade 60/360 ETX, "meopta" AD720; Zrak 56/800, homemade "Plavko" 56/800, Vega Ljubljana 45/700. Okulari: TS UWAN 16mm 82°, Gold line 6 i 9mm, te brdo homemade okulara 10-32mm. Homemade 1.25" okular turret, 2" dijagonale sa prizmom i zrcalom, 2x barlowi 1.25 i 2", Montaža: Skywatcher Synscan custom. Kamere: Omegon veTEC533C, Canon EOS 1100D, QHY5 mono. Filteri: Optolong L-Extreme 1.25" Objektivi: Meopta Belar 4.5/105, Meopta Anaret 4.5/90, 4.5/80 i 4.5/50, "rus" 3.5/50, PZO Mikar/S 4.5/55, Kit 18-55mm, Porst Super-Tele 3.5/200, Pentacon 2.8/135, Mamiya 2/50, Helios 2/58 i Flektogon 2.4/35. Dalekozori: Super Zenith 12x50, Tento 7x50, Bresser 20-60x60, 10x40 noname monokular

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« Odgovori #14 u: 28.01.2022. u 13:39:45 sati »
Ma kupit cu ja vraga,........ *zubo* :-D

Točno tako.

Ne znam jel ti još treba sugestija da otvoriš OPG i optički popravljaš teleskope.

Već kasniš u odnosu na zadnju prepisku cca. 15 dana  *jok*

 *hopla* *šešir*
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