Okulari...wide angle

Autor Vger, 01.06.2019. u 19:19:19 sati

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Vger

01.06.2019. u 19:19:19 sati Last Edit: 01.06.2019. u 21:07:04 sati by Vger
Htio bih si ubosti nesto oko 15mm da popunim rupu...pa se neckam izmedju obicnog gso plossila ili ovih par wide field drugara? Problem je sto su scopovi f5 i 6,5 pa se bojim da bih mogao imati dosta muljave i izoblicene rubove? Nesto od ova tri?
Ovo bi bio kao i gold line u nasem ducanu?
https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p618_TS-Optics-Ultra-Wide-Angle-Eyepiece-15-mm-1-25----66--field-of-view.html
ili mozda ovo?
https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/product_info.php?products_id=4839#cs
Ili ovako nesto?
https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p961_TS-Optics-12-mm-1-25----70--Wide-Angle-Eyepiece.html

Astrobobo

#1
01.06.2019. u 19:31:14 sati
IMNSHO - zemi Hyperiona. Svaki okular je koliko para toliko mjuze.
http://astrobobo.net : http://recenzije.astrobobo.net : http://ekorasvjeta.net
Pentax 105 SDP, C 9.25" EdgeHD, Lunt 60mm, Nikon Monarch 7 8x42
iOptron HAE29, Celestron CGEM, Giro GR3
SBIG STL-11000, Player One Uranus-C + Uranus-M Pro + Mars-II mono, Nikon D5500 mod.

Vger

#2
01.06.2019. u 19:53:09 sati
Auu brale...pa to kosta!:)

stipe

#3
01.06.2019. u 22:22:25 sati
S ovakvim necim ne bi pogrijesio.

Imam slican, ako ne i isti takav. Moj je Skywatcher UWAN 16mm. Ostar, 82° vidno polje.

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/ovl-eyepieces/ovl-nirvana-es-uwa-82-ultrawide-eyepieces.html

Sve ovisi koje pare mislis dat.
Newtoni: 300mm f5.7 dobson, 150mm f8 dobson, homemade astrograf 152mm f4, Vega Ljubljana 140/1417; refraktori: Explore Scientific AR 152, Explore Scientific 127ED triplet APO, Explore Scientific 80ED triplet APO, Vixen replika 102/920, "Opticko siroce" 102/660, mini Jaeger's 54/330, 90/800 eBayscope bino, Telementor replika, 70/900 s pentaprizmom, Zeiss C80/500, Asiola replika, eBay diy 65/500 akromat, Mak 70 diy, eBay 90/500, Tasco 5TE, Carton 60/1000, SS Shorty 80/400, Meade 60/360 ETX, "meopta" AD720; Zrak 56/800, homemade "Plavko" 56/800, Vega Ljubljana 45/700. Okulari: TS XWA 100° 20mm, TS UWAN 16mm 82°, Gold line 6 i 9mm, homemade okulari 10-32mm. Homemade 1.25" okular turret, 2" dijagonale sa prizmom i zrcalom, 2x barlowi 1.25 i 2", Angeleyes 3x ED barlow; Montaže: Skywatcher Synscan custom, Onstep homemade harmonic drive EQ. Kamere: Omegon veTEC533C, Omegon veLOX715C, ASI290MC, QHY5, Canon EOS 1000 i 1100D. Filteri: Optolong L-extreme i L-pro 1.25", ZWO UV/IR cut, solar Helievo 104-128mm; Objektivi: Meopta Belar 4.5/105, Meopta Anaret 4.5/90, 4.5/80 i 4.5/50, PZO Mikar/S 4.5/55, Kit 18-55mm, Isconar 4/135, Zeiss Sonnar MC 3.5/135, Pentacon 2.8/135, Mamiya 2/50, Helios 2/58, Revuenon Special 2.8/35 i Flektogon 2.4/35. Dalekozori: Super Zenith 12x50, Tento 7x50, Bresser 20-60x60, 10x40 monokular

Vger

#4
01.06.2019. u 22:31:09 sati
Pa ovo bio krajni maksimum...mozda...al pitanje je kako li ce raditi na F5 i 6.5? Jer ako su rubovi u komi...onda mi se vise isplati neki jeftiniji ili obican od 52°?

Vger

#5
02.06.2019. u 01:39:38 sati
Momci... hvala vam na sugestijama...upravo potrosio pare;:)

stipe

#6
02.06.2019. u 09:25:30 sati
I koji okular si kupio?
Newtoni: 300mm f5.7 dobson, 150mm f8 dobson, homemade astrograf 152mm f4, Vega Ljubljana 140/1417; refraktori: Explore Scientific AR 152, Explore Scientific 127ED triplet APO, Explore Scientific 80ED triplet APO, Vixen replika 102/920, "Opticko siroce" 102/660, mini Jaeger's 54/330, 90/800 eBayscope bino, Telementor replika, 70/900 s pentaprizmom, Zeiss C80/500, Asiola replika, eBay diy 65/500 akromat, Mak 70 diy, eBay 90/500, Tasco 5TE, Carton 60/1000, SS Shorty 80/400, Meade 60/360 ETX, "meopta" AD720; Zrak 56/800, homemade "Plavko" 56/800, Vega Ljubljana 45/700. Okulari: TS XWA 100° 20mm, TS UWAN 16mm 82°, Gold line 6 i 9mm, homemade okulari 10-32mm. Homemade 1.25" okular turret, 2" dijagonale sa prizmom i zrcalom, 2x barlowi 1.25 i 2", Angeleyes 3x ED barlow; Montaže: Skywatcher Synscan custom, Onstep homemade harmonic drive EQ. Kamere: Omegon veTEC533C, Omegon veLOX715C, ASI290MC, QHY5, Canon EOS 1000 i 1100D. Filteri: Optolong L-extreme i L-pro 1.25", ZWO UV/IR cut, solar Helievo 104-128mm; Objektivi: Meopta Belar 4.5/105, Meopta Anaret 4.5/90, 4.5/80 i 4.5/50, PZO Mikar/S 4.5/55, Kit 18-55mm, Isconar 4/135, Zeiss Sonnar MC 3.5/135, Pentacon 2.8/135, Mamiya 2/50, Helios 2/58, Revuenon Special 2.8/35 i Flektogon 2.4/35. Dalekozori: Super Zenith 12x50, Tento 7x50, Bresser 20-60x60, 10x40 monokular

Astrobobo

#7
02.06.2019. u 10:27:37 sati
Citat: Vger  u 01.06.2019. u 19:53:09 sati
Auu brale...pa to kosta!:)

To je jeftino za dobar širokokutni okular. Pogledaj koliko su Panopticsi.
http://astrobobo.net : http://recenzije.astrobobo.net : http://ekorasvjeta.net
Pentax 105 SDP, C 9.25" EdgeHD, Lunt 60mm, Nikon Monarch 7 8x42
iOptron HAE29, Celestron CGEM, Giro GR3
SBIG STL-11000, Player One Uranus-C + Uranus-M Pro + Mars-II mono, Nikon D5500 mod.

Vger

#8
02.06.2019. u 11:28:39 sati
Ma vidio sam...za tu lovu kupim auto koji vozi par mjeseci i mozda ga jednom poguram:)
Ovo na kraju ubo.
https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/product_info.php/language/en/info/p11003_Nirvana-ES-UWA-82--16-mm-1-25--Ultraweitwinkel-Okular.html

Astrobobo

#9
02.06.2019. u 11:54:28 sati
Pa razlika je 200 kn u odnosu na Hyperion?

To je ovo https://teleskopcentar.hr/proizvod/lacerta-uwa-82/
http://astrobobo.net : http://recenzije.astrobobo.net : http://ekorasvjeta.net
Pentax 105 SDP, C 9.25" EdgeHD, Lunt 60mm, Nikon Monarch 7 8x42
iOptron HAE29, Celestron CGEM, Giro GR3
SBIG STL-11000, Player One Uranus-C + Uranus-M Pro + Mars-II mono, Nikon D5500 mod.

Vger

#10
02.06.2019. u 12:06:35 sati
Citat: Astrobobo  u 02.06.2019. u 11:54:28 sati
Pa razlika je 200 kn u odnosu na Hyperion?

To je ovo https://teleskopcentar.hr/proizvod/lacerta-uwa-82/

Znam...al i ovako sam se rastego vise nego sto sam htio.:) Posluzit ce.:)

stipe

#11
02.06.2019. u 12:40:38 sati
Citat: Vger  u 02.06.2019. u 11:28:39 sati
Ma vidio sam...za tu lovu kupim auto koji vozi par mjeseci i mozda ga jednom poguram:)
Ovo na kraju ubo.
https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/product_info.php/language/en/info/p11003_Nirvana-ES-UWA-82--16-mm-1-25--Ultraweitwinkel-Okular.html

Bingoooo!!!  *tu*

Cestitam *pljesk*

Odlican izbor!

Sad ces morat okom obilazit po vidnom polju da pohvatas cjelu sliku! Moj je skop isto f6.5 i taman mi pase takav okular na njega za dobiti omjer kontrast/svjetlina da uzivam u globularcina i otvorenim skupovima, a na tom povecanju se kromatska jos ne vidi.
Newtoni: 300mm f5.7 dobson, 150mm f8 dobson, homemade astrograf 152mm f4, Vega Ljubljana 140/1417; refraktori: Explore Scientific AR 152, Explore Scientific 127ED triplet APO, Explore Scientific 80ED triplet APO, Vixen replika 102/920, "Opticko siroce" 102/660, mini Jaeger's 54/330, 90/800 eBayscope bino, Telementor replika, 70/900 s pentaprizmom, Zeiss C80/500, Asiola replika, eBay diy 65/500 akromat, Mak 70 diy, eBay 90/500, Tasco 5TE, Carton 60/1000, SS Shorty 80/400, Meade 60/360 ETX, "meopta" AD720; Zrak 56/800, homemade "Plavko" 56/800, Vega Ljubljana 45/700. Okulari: TS XWA 100° 20mm, TS UWAN 16mm 82°, Gold line 6 i 9mm, homemade okulari 10-32mm. Homemade 1.25" okular turret, 2" dijagonale sa prizmom i zrcalom, 2x barlowi 1.25 i 2", Angeleyes 3x ED barlow; Montaže: Skywatcher Synscan custom, Onstep homemade harmonic drive EQ. Kamere: Omegon veTEC533C, Omegon veLOX715C, ASI290MC, QHY5, Canon EOS 1000 i 1100D. Filteri: Optolong L-extreme i L-pro 1.25", ZWO UV/IR cut, solar Helievo 104-128mm; Objektivi: Meopta Belar 4.5/105, Meopta Anaret 4.5/90, 4.5/80 i 4.5/50, PZO Mikar/S 4.5/55, Kit 18-55mm, Isconar 4/135, Zeiss Sonnar MC 3.5/135, Pentacon 2.8/135, Mamiya 2/50, Helios 2/58, Revuenon Special 2.8/35 i Flektogon 2.4/35. Dalekozori: Super Zenith 12x50, Tento 7x50, Bresser 20-60x60, 10x40 monokular

Vger

#12
02.06.2019. u 12:59:25 sati
Cim prizdravim provjerim;:) Bio nesto po operacijama i kirurgijama, pa se mirujeeee. Zvijezde su sad beskonacno daleke.
Pitam se kad bi imo ovakva dva okulara + binoviewer....kako bi to izgledalo?

stipe

#13
02.06.2019. u 18:33:08 sati
Izgledalo bi strava!

A sto se tice zvijezda, sto god da si operirao i kolko god da se oporavljo, mos se sto puta oporavit dok se razvedri *zubo* jer ces se nacekat tih nesretnih zvijezda... Sto je London city naspram Zagreba, Splita ili Rijeke u kisi...
Newtoni: 300mm f5.7 dobson, 150mm f8 dobson, homemade astrograf 152mm f4, Vega Ljubljana 140/1417; refraktori: Explore Scientific AR 152, Explore Scientific 127ED triplet APO, Explore Scientific 80ED triplet APO, Vixen replika 102/920, "Opticko siroce" 102/660, mini Jaeger's 54/330, 90/800 eBayscope bino, Telementor replika, 70/900 s pentaprizmom, Zeiss C80/500, Asiola replika, eBay diy 65/500 akromat, Mak 70 diy, eBay 90/500, Tasco 5TE, Carton 60/1000, SS Shorty 80/400, Meade 60/360 ETX, "meopta" AD720; Zrak 56/800, homemade "Plavko" 56/800, Vega Ljubljana 45/700. Okulari: TS XWA 100° 20mm, TS UWAN 16mm 82°, Gold line 6 i 9mm, homemade okulari 10-32mm. Homemade 1.25" okular turret, 2" dijagonale sa prizmom i zrcalom, 2x barlowi 1.25 i 2", Angeleyes 3x ED barlow; Montaže: Skywatcher Synscan custom, Onstep homemade harmonic drive EQ. Kamere: Omegon veTEC533C, Omegon veLOX715C, ASI290MC, QHY5, Canon EOS 1000 i 1100D. Filteri: Optolong L-extreme i L-pro 1.25", ZWO UV/IR cut, solar Helievo 104-128mm; Objektivi: Meopta Belar 4.5/105, Meopta Anaret 4.5/90, 4.5/80 i 4.5/50, PZO Mikar/S 4.5/55, Kit 18-55mm, Isconar 4/135, Zeiss Sonnar MC 3.5/135, Pentacon 2.8/135, Mamiya 2/50, Helios 2/58, Revuenon Special 2.8/35 i Flektogon 2.4/35. Dalekozori: Super Zenith 12x50, Tento 7x50, Bresser 20-60x60, 10x40 monokular

Tomislav

#14
05.06.2019. u 12:31:46 sati
Citat: Vger  u 02.06.2019. u 11:28:39 sati
Ma vidio sam...za tu lovu kupim auto koji vozi par mjeseci i mozda ga jednom poguram:)
Ovo na kraju ubo.
https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop/product_info.php/language/en/info/p11003_Nirvana-ES-UWA-82--16-mm-1-25--Ultraweitwinkel-Okular.html

Dobro si se odlučio.
To je klon William Optics UWAN okulara i ne samo da je na F5 teleskopu bolji od Hyperiona (osim eye reliefa), nego je u ovoj varianti eto još i jeftiniji.
Istina je da je 16mm UWAN na manje dobrom glasu od ostala 3 iz linije, ali sigurno nije lošiji od Hyperiona, jedino mogu biti približno isti. Sa time da je UWAN 82 u odnosu na Hyperionovih 68 supnjeva.

Za F6,5 teleskop inače ne bi bila takva kriza. Osobno imam vrlo lijepa sijećanja na 17mm Hyperion kada sam ga koristio na F6 dobsonu.
SW 300/1500 flex tube dob;  SW 120ED Pro na SkyTee2 alt-az
TV Nagler T5 20, TV Ethos 13, BCO 10, Baader Morpheus 9 i 6,5 , Pentax XW 5, TS UWAN 4
ES Coma Corrector; TeleVue 2x barlow; Astronomik UHC, Castell OIII
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